What do you think is the question that Dungeonland gets asked the most each week? Based on this episodes title, you can probably figure out what it is - when is my item arriving in stock?
This is a question we get almost every day. And especially from customers who have pre-orders with us. Now on pre-orders, we do not advertise any date that suggests when it might be available. And there is a reason for this - we don't have one. On almost every product we do not receive any release date or arrival information. The exception, being the odd product by the big publishers, like Dungeons & Dragons for example, they always get a street date which is available on their website (or we can tell you). Pretty much everything else? We are flying by the seat of our pants. What a funny old aviation term that is. But totally appropriate here.
It is an unusual industry. You can go to almost any other entertainment industry, like say, video games, or movies and so forth, and all the products have street dates. The items are shipped into the retailers ready for those street dates and they go live on sale everywhere at the same time. Very fair to all. Not here though. This industry is niche and items are sold, well, when they turn up in most cases. But it is when they turn up that is the issue that we are talking about. So, here is how it works for us, and hopefully you can understand why information is generally not forthcoming from us. I'd rather not be saying that, but this industry is what it is.
For starters our products come from all different sources all over the world just now. We use trade suppliers all across the UK and EU and we purchase a lot of stock direct from publishers both large and small and in multiple different countries spread around the globe. Generally, what we have listed for pre-order though is what we have ordered from those larger key UK suppliers. That is because they are usually the ones that offer us a trade price upfront and information about the product so we can put that pre-order up. With some publishers we might not be able to work out a trade price until the stock is paid for and shipping (due to the exchange rate) and they may not want us to offer a pre-order as they may have a Kickstarter running and they are hoping to get their orders there first. So to sum up, if it is on pre-order, it is probably coming from a UK supplier.
Now, you would think the UK supplier would offer us a release date or some information on when the item is shipping, right? Nope. They may put a vague quarter in the year they might anticipate stock but that would be at best. And most likely, they'll miss that quarter anyway. So we list the item for pre-order without any information of when it will ship. It is all we can do and is better than throwing up vague estimates that will only disappoint later. We do place an order day one with the supplier. That will put us top of the queue later when stock arrives with them. As customers pre-order we'll increase that amount based on your orders. This is why it helps if you order early on some titles (see our special order blog).
Now when is that item going to ship? First, lets ask if this is a Kickstarter item or not. If it is, then Kickstarter fulfilment is going to happen first. If you are not familiar with Kickstarter, a quick search online will show you all about what this crowd funding platform does. When the product is funded, they'll start shipping to customers that backed them first. Only once that is 100% complete will they start to look at retail distribution. If the product is popular Kickstarter fulfilment can take months. That is not unusual. If you have ordered a product with us that does have a Kickstarter it is always worth checking their page as they usually do tend to tell you where they are in terms of completing shipments to backers. Eventually, we get to the point where the Kickstarter is completed or there wasn't a Kickstarter on the product and it is being funded probably by the publisher themselves. What happens next?
We wait for the supplier to place an order with the publisher. This is the first step in several steps where we just don't know how long that might be. The supplier may place orders regular with some publishers, and not so much with others. It's going to come down to what demand they get for a publishers products. Suppliers take back orders from retailers for products and place orders once they have enough to take the process to the next stage. So, imagine your product has shipped now in its country of origin. Most likely the USA, this is typically where most of our books come from. That product could be out for days, weeks, or even months, before the supplier places that order for it. We often get customers saying to us, "my product is out in America" and we appreciate it probably is. But we can't tell you if the supplier in the UK has placed the order for it yet. They don't share that kind of information with retailers. And the distribution is going to take time.
If you are lucky enough that your product is produced in the UK then the next stage will be it arriving in with the supplier and being distributed out to retail. Unfortunately though, as you probably figured already, very little is produced here in the UK. Most comes from America, China, and (oddly to me) Lithuania. Those tend to be the hot spots for book printing. And this means step two of your items unpredictable arrival time is going to be down to the freight time. And freight time can be weeks, or months, and again, is all rather unpredictable. Once the freight does arrive in the UK it will be subjected to customs UK clearance times and this again can cause delays and add more time to your item reaching the supplier.
And that is the reason that when you send us a message and ask us - can you tell me when my item is due in? I generally break down and write you a lengthy e-mail explaining all the reasons above that I can't help. And I know it is frustrating for you not to know, because it is frustrating for us too that we have no idea when products are going to arrive. Any business dislikes disappointing customers and having no information for you is always disappointing. And at the time your question comes in, your item could still be at the publisher, on a freight journey, in customs, and so on, and we just don't know.
Eventually though that freight comes in with our supplier and the moment their warehouse has processed it they are in touch with retailers to let them know stock is here and they are going to start invoicing. We pay all our invoices up front on day one of any stock arrival to get our shipments out first. That is as much control as we have. And once we have paid that invoice that is the moment we'll start to post on social media what is due in and we'll start contacting those pre-order customers to say their item is about to arrive in with us. And finally, you have your item!
Thanks for taking the time to read this. I will no doubt be pointing a few of you to this page when I get asked that question again. And I always recommend that anyone who is interested to place a pre-order with us checks our pre-order guide first. We keep it as transparent and informative as possible so that when you place an order you know exactly what is ahead for your order.
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Unit 3A Trident Business Park
Amy Johnson Way
Blackpool
FY4 2RP
Monday to Friday: 9.30am - 1.30pm
Weekends: Closed
Website Design 2020 - 2024 © Dungeonland